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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)

Post by atomtengeralattjaro » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:42 pm

(woah, vi is not for humans.)


oh and c# is less portable than java, it only runs where the .net framework runs, and that's basically windows machines, xbox, netduino, silverlight/(moonlight for linux) and umm.. i guess mono on linux, and on osx not sure how well does that work.

iOS is apple's thing, i don't know anything about it, i assume nothing runs on it that isn't blessed by apple's holy blessing or something, correct me if i'm wrong.
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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)

Post by vraiment » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:12 pm

Mono runs at OS X

Mono runs at Linux

There's a mono compilers that compiles C# to iOS native code

Java only runs where the JVM runs

C# not
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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)

Post by Anonymously Famous » Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:53 pm

The JVM runs almost anywhere, even on some of the OSs available for the Raspberry Pi, as I understand it. It's even in a lot of places where it doesn't really make sense (I love using XKCD links like they're serious sources).

C++ only runs on machines that have compilers for it. And you have to rebuild it for each machine. Not so with Java. The same executable will run on any machine, provided it has the same (or more current) JVM.

Java may not run on the iOS (not Java's fault that Apple doesn't allow a JVM app), but it's THE language for Android.

Python's better than them all, though, because this, this and this.
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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)

Post by atomtengeralattjaro » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:15 pm

Anonymously Famous wrote:this
wait a minute.. did they crash into Calvin and Hobbes?!
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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)

Post by assdef » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:42 am

I miss C&H. :(

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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)

Post by erik422 » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:39 pm

well... back to the java thing. I know java cannot run on iOS. But it still WAY WAY WAY more portable than any C language. And it's not that hard to get a JVM. If it's really that much trouble people can even make a mac app and a windows exe and a linux whatever that runs the java app with a JVM bundled in it. I know C++ basics, but I don't know how to do stuff that is really easy in java. For example, last week I tried to get boost c++ so I could make threads easily (among other things) and I spent 2 hours fooling with CMD, searching for the broken jam executable link on the boost website, and trying to compile boost myself and came up with NOTHING. Then I tried the complicated winapi threading api and it didn't work either (probably because I am such a newb at winapi). With Java it's as easy as

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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)

Post by Anonymously Famous » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:24 am

atomtengeralattjaro wrote:
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wait a minute.. did they crash into Calvin and Hobbes?!
Yes. Yes they did.
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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)

Post by Gamma » Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:28 pm

Java's slow and icky and hard to work with and is only worth using for web-based applets. You're better off using C# or C++ or .NET or something else for desktop apps.
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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)

Post by Anonymously Famous » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:12 pm

You can avoid Java altogether if you want. There are alternatives for web apps.

Some people really like it, though.
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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)

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Plus there are ample choices for caffeinated drinks other than coffee, if you're not a java fan.
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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)

Post by Shai'tan » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:10 pm

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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)

Post by assdef » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:53 pm

Emacs? Is that like iMacs, only with an e?
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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)

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assdef wrote:Plus there are ample choices for caffeinated drinks other than coffee, if you're not a java fan.
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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)

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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)

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