what?

W/E · Post by **W/E** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:16 am

Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:I heard cookies! O.O

What's a fetus again?

EDIT:

Having the choice of abortion is just as much killing as having a fully loaded gun in your house...
Yes it is, BUT abortion it's NOT the same as shooting a person.
No... but it's potentially the same thing...
No, it depends... it depends on what stage of the pregnancy the abortion is made. An embryo whit less than 3 months IT'S NOT A HUMAN BEING.
I'm just saying that having the option to abort someone could be seen as the same option of going out and shoot someone with a gun, but it will ofc be different consequences... Though I'm not against abortion...

No, it would be the same as going out to shoot any animal

keja wrote:I think they meant not a person. It is a human.

It is not, think about it. What is that makes us human, humans? What's makes us different from all the other living things?

Post by **atomtengeralattjaro** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:40 pm

it's love.
you can't really say if a fetus can love or not, maybe it's the only thing it can actually do

oh well.

Post by **Shai'tan** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:15 am

W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:I heard cookies! O.O

What's a fetus again?

EDIT:

Having the choice of abortion is just as much killing as having a fully loaded gun in your house...
Yes it is, BUT abortion it's NOT the same as shooting a person.
No... but it's potentially the same thing...
No, it depends... it depends on what stage of the pregnancy the abortion is made. An embryo whit less than 3 months IT'S NOT A HUMAN BEING.
I'm just saying that having the option to abort someone could be seen as the same option of going out and shoot someone with a gun, but it will ofc be different consequences... Though I'm not against abortion...
No, it would be the same as going out to shoot any animal

keja wrote:I think they meant not a person. It is a human.
It is not, think about it. What is that makes us human, humans? What's makes us different from all the other living things?

Animal, human, it depends on the point of view, some will say one thing, another the other...

And what makes human different from others; We are able to think? Not just act acording to our instincts, but to actually choose... There are a lot of things that differs humans from other animals...

W/E · Post by **W/E** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:15 am

Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:I heard cookies! O.O

What's a fetus again?

EDIT:

Having the choice of abortion is just as much killing as having a fully loaded gun in your house...
Yes it is, BUT abortion it's NOT the same as shooting a person.
No... but it's potentially the same thing...
No, it depends... it depends on what stage of the pregnancy the abortion is made. An embryo whit less than 3 months IT'S NOT A HUMAN BEING.
I'm just saying that having the option to abort someone could be seen as the same option of going out and shoot someone with a gun, but it will ofc be different consequences... Though I'm not against abortion...
No, it would be the same as going out to shoot any animal

keja wrote:I think they meant not a person. It is a human.
It is not, think about it. What is that makes us human, humans? What's makes us different from all the other living things?
Animal, human, it depends on the point of view, some will say one thing, another the other...

And what makes human different from others; We are able to think? Not just act acording to our instincts, but to actually choose... There are a lot of things that differs humans from other animals...

I said animal coz I meant ANY animal, not exclusively a human.

And all of those things are not in a fetus... so it's not a human.

Post by **Shai'tan** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:00 am

W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:I heard cookies! O.O

What's a fetus again?

EDIT:

Having the choice of abortion is just as much killing as having a fully loaded gun in your house...
Yes it is, BUT abortion it's NOT the same as shooting a person.
No... but it's potentially the same thing...
No, it depends... it depends on what stage of the pregnancy the abortion is made. An embryo whit less than 3 months IT'S NOT A HUMAN BEING.
I'm just saying that having the option to abort someone could be seen as the same option of going out and shoot someone with a gun, but it will ofc be different consequences... Though I'm not against abortion...
No, it would be the same as going out to shoot any animal

keja wrote:I think they meant not a person. It is a human.
It is not, think about it. What is that makes us human, humans? What's makes us different from all the other living things?
Animal, human, it depends on the point of view, some will say one thing, another the other...

And what makes human different from others; We are able to think? Not just act acording to our instincts, but to actually choose... There are a lot of things that differs humans from other animals...
I said animal coz I meant ANY animal, not exclusively a human.

And all of those things are not in a fetus... so it's not a human.

Are you aware that this is probably the most serious discussion ever to take place on these Forums™?

Also, what is fetus?

I agree with your statement about killing any animal

But I would still say that it depends on the point of view too see if they are human or not. You should also take in coderation that they will become a human later...

Post by **CX gamer** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:32 pm

Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:I heard cookies! O.O

What's a fetus again?

EDIT:

Having the choice of abortion is just as much killing as having a fully loaded gun in your house...
Yes it is, BUT abortion it's NOT the same as shooting a person.
No... but it's potentially the same thing...
No, it depends... it depends on what stage of the pregnancy the abortion is made. An embryo whit less than 3 months IT'S NOT A HUMAN BEING.
I'm just saying that having the option to abort someone could be seen as the same option of going out and shoot someone with a gun, but it will ofc be different consequences... Though I'm not against abortion...
No, it would be the same as going out to shoot any animal

keja wrote:I think they meant not a person. It is a human.
It is not, think about it. What is that makes us human, humans? What's makes us different from all the other living things?
Animal, human, it depends on the point of view, some will say one thing, another the other...

And what makes human different from others; We are able to think? Not just act acording to our instincts, but to actually choose... There are a lot of things that differs humans from other animals...
I said animal coz I meant ANY animal, not exclusively a human.

And all of those things are not in a fetus... so it's not a human.
Are you aware that this is probably the most serious discussion ever to take place on these Forums™?

Also, what is fetus?

I agree with your statement about killing any animal

But I would still say that it depends on the point of view too see if they are human or not. You should also take in coderation that they will become a human later...

A fetus is the stage of a growing human being between embryo and baby...

There's an action running here that sends us plastic fetusses in our mailbox to let us see how a fetus is in fact a human being...

vraiment · Post by **vraiment** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:29 pm

CX gamer wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:
W/E wrote:
Shai'tan wrote:I heard cookies! O.O

What's a fetus again?

EDIT:

Having the choice of abortion is just as much killing as having a fully loaded gun in your house...
Yes it is, BUT abortion it's NOT the same as shooting a person.
No... but it's potentially the same thing...
No, it depends... it depends on what stage of the pregnancy the abortion is made. An embryo whit less than 3 months IT'S NOT A HUMAN BEING.
I'm just saying that having the option to abort someone could be seen as the same option of going out and shoot someone with a gun, but it will ofc be different consequences... Though I'm not against abortion...
No, it would be the same as going out to shoot any animal

keja wrote:I think they meant not a person. It is a human.
It is not, think about it. What is that makes us human, humans? What's makes us different from all the other living things?
Animal, human, it depends on the point of view, some will say one thing, another the other...

And what makes human different from others; We are able to think? Not just act acording to our instincts, but to actually choose... There are a lot of things that differs humans from other animals...
I said animal coz I meant ANY animal, not exclusively a human.

And all of those things are not in a fetus... so it's not a human.
Are you aware that this is probably the most serious discussion ever to take place on these Forums™?

Also, what is fetus?

I agree with your statement about killing any animal

But I would still say that it depends on the point of view too see if they are human or not. You should also take in coderation that they will become a human later...
A fetus is the stage of a growing human being between embryo and baby...

There's an action running here that sends us plastic fetusses in our mailbox to let us see how a fetus is in fact a human being...

What does make a human being? Else we can say that a legless person is a human being? or one in vegetative state?

Post by **atomtengeralattjaro** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:33 pm

legless is totally human, no doubt.
vegetative is a different case, they can be considered human, but with no chance of returning brain activity there is no meaning of keeping them alive.. it's not a matter of taking a useful life, like abortion.

W/E · Post by **W/E** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:42 am

A human it's not just the shape or the parts of the body all togheter, it's about Structure. A legless person has no legs, but if it had legs, the overall structure would be the same to a leged same age person.

An early Fetus or an Embryo don't have the overall structure or the functions of a complete human being YET.

Sure they will be a human someday, but it brings put my point, they're not human.

Post by **Shai'tan** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:13 pm

Post by **CX gamer** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:04 pm

So we're good?!...

Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:22 pm

we're amazing actually.

Post by **CX gamer** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:15 pm

Don't get too intimate pl0x...

Post by **Shai'tan** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:30 pm

Well, if you do, keep it out of the Forums™...

Post by **atomtengeralattjaro** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:33 pm

*doesn't get too intimate*..

vraiment · Post by **vraiment** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:47 pm

W/E wrote:A human it's not just the shape or the parts of the body all togheter, it's about Structure. A legless person has no legs, but if it had legs, the overall structure would be the same to a leged same age person.

An early Fetus or an Embryo don't have the overall structure or the functions of a complete human being YET.

Sure they will be a human someday, but it brings put my point, they're not human.

Be a human is no about structure, that's not very specify, it's like say that the TV shows images for magic, its not good foundation . A fetus has already all the chromosomes, it's human already, not will become a human...

Post by **keja** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:20 pm

I do not follow.

Post by **Shai'tan** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:33 am

Then you're lost...

Post by **CX gamer** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:11 pm

Mapreading level = 1...

Post by **keja** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:41 pm

Atractivity level= 387864272925819