Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)
Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)
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Yesterday, I wrote a Java applet that got privileges to write to the user's hard disk with just 2 security dialogs! Windows+Java=stupid easy, really. I made it so it copies an exe to some random obscure appdata folder, then put a shortcut to it in the start menu's startup folder. I didn't want to go this far, but you could really introduce some malicious software like this. Like a keylogger... I just put an annoying dialog.... Than sent it to my (programmer) friend, who figured it out eventually...
Yesterday, I wrote a Java applet that got privileges to write to the user's hard disk with just 2 security dialogs! Windows+Java=stupid easy, really. I made it so it copies an exe to some random obscure appdata folder, then put a shortcut to it in the start menu's startup folder. I didn't want to go this far, but you could really introduce some malicious software like this. Like a keylogger... I just put an annoying dialog.... Than sent it to my (programmer) friend, who figured it out eventually...
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nice, but i must say that if someone wants to run an applet so badly that they press OK on two security dialogs, they must either trust the publisher or be really careless..
nice, but i must say that if someone wants to run an applet so badly that they press OK on two security dialogs, they must either trust the publisher or be really careless..
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* + java = shit
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You can copy files with just about any programming language, provided the user has permissions to write to the location.
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Java did have a significant security leak earlier this year, but I think it only affected Java 6. I think it was something to do with being able to invoke some otherwise "forbidden" methods using reflection, in a sandboxed environment (applets). I have no idea why said forbidden classes/methods were even in the browser-version JRE in the first place, though.. but i have nearly no insight on how does sandboxing work internally anyway.
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No I'm assuming the user is (somewhat) dumb (with computers) and the applet looks like a convincing game...
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I'd heard that there was a leak in Java 7, too, though it was an offhand comment from my work's IT manager, so I don't have any details. And it might be fixed by now.
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I found an even easier way to put files on a computer through IE (specifically IE, because IE has activeX). http://carnal0wnage.attackresearch.com/ ... ploit.html
IE is so dumb...
IE is so dumb...
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sounds cool and i'll look at it, but by just looking at the date of that post i can assume that it's no longer working on an up-to-date IE.
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"ethical hacking"
I think I will leave that right next to "jumbo shrimp" and "almost exactly" and "alone together" and "government secrets."
I think I will leave that right next to "jumbo shrimp" and "almost exactly" and "alone together" and "government secrets."
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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)
Not to mention "Military Intelligence" and "Microsoft Works".
There is such a thing as ethical hacking. All the hacking I do is ethical. (And by "hacking" I mean creating programs to solve problems, mostly dealing with my own work). There are also those who are hired to find security vulnerabilities within systems so that those vulnerabilities can be eliminated or minimized. I'd call that ethical.
There is such a thing as ethical hacking. All the hacking I do is ethical. (And by "hacking" I mean creating programs to solve problems, mostly dealing with my own work). There are also those who are hired to find security vulnerabilities within systems so that those vulnerabilities can be eliminated or minimized. I'd call that ethical.
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Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)
Yeah but capitalism is evil and unethical like white male landowners.
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open sources is theoretically awesome and beautiful
truth is most users don't give a sh*t about software freedom
java is a lame and old language
truth is most users don't give a sh*t about software freedom
java is a lame and old language
Re: Windows fails! (by ethical hacking...)
Are you kidding me? Java is awesome! It is absolutely not old or lame. I code in it a lot because it is cross platform, so I don't have to worry about all those C++ libraries and extra code that I would have to worry about if I wanted to make a C++ application cross platform.
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Better not get Vraiment started on java.. it's gonna be an endless flame war.
It is definitely old. Lameness is subjective, i won't get into that now.. but I do prefer C#.erik422 wrote:It is absolutely not old or lame.
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*gets his flame thrower ready*
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erik422 wrote:Are you kidding me? Java is awesome! It is absolutely not old or lame. I code in it a lot because it is cross platform, so I don't have to worry about all those C++ libraries and extra code that I would have to worry about if I wanted to make a C++ application cross platform.
I WANT TO WATCH THE WORLD BURN
Java is not multiplatform, does java run in iOS?
C/C++ are kinda portable.
Right now I'm making a little game for a class in C++ and SDL.
Compiles in windows and os x.
Same code runs in both platforms, (and maybe it would run in linux)
The only difference to make compile is how you set up each IDE.
I'm too lazy to do it by console.
And to execute them, you just have to set the DLL or .framework in the correct directory.
Something the IDE does automatically as is correctly configured.
C# is also kind of portable.
Java lacks of function pointers or something similar.
Interfaces are good idea, without excess.
Java will take 8 versions AFAIK to include unsigned integers. That's like a lot.
Unsigned integers are not that hard to implement.
Java generics are a joke-syntactic-sugar.
Is lame that you cannot cast (Object[]) to (MyClass[]), in the end they are pointers.
I could go on and on with troubles I have found working with Java.
It has good things, but has more bad things.
Try C#.
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kinda relevant xkcd (I guess not really but it's relevant to me!)
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i always was too lazy to learn emacs
but not to learn vi(m)
I like vi(m)
but not to learn vi(m)
I like vi(m)
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ROAR!!!!!
*insert plausible argument about the virtues of a particular programming language here*
ALL OTHERS ARE WRONG AND MUST SUFFER MY WRATH!!!!
*insert plausible argument about the virtues of a particular programming language here*
ALL OTHERS ARE WRONG AND MUST SUFFER MY WRATH!!!!