Oh hai guise

[vraiment]

I remember keja. That limey British bastard.

Don't talk like that about him!

Interesting hmmmm. Do youuuuu know about C++ shai? and how have you been?

I do! Hi lunar!

Lunar! Welcome back, good sir!

And I like Java, too!

Java sucks big time

[lunar_furor]

I resent that. I like java quite a bit. To just up and denounce a widely used programming language for any reason, is absolutely irresponsable. That's just jobs and money you're throwing away. You hear people say that all the time and there's no excuse for it. That's like using a phillips screwdriver and saying FLAT HEAD'S SUCK because they do a similar job differently. You'd find that guy crazy, why should something like programming languages be ANY different?

Java works cleanly on everything and is easily accessable to just about anyone.
C languages are more efficient with FAR more ways to TOTALLY ruin everything, and generally only work on specific machines.

THEY ARENT THE SAME.

[ThingerDudes]

every programming language is flawed in their own way :3

[assdef]

programming is flawed

QFT

[lunar_furor]

every programming language is flawed in their own way :3

This

[vraiment]

Java works cleanly on everything and is easily accessable to just about anyone.
C languages are more efficient with FAR more ways to TOTALLY ruin everything, and generally only work on specific machines.

THEY ARENT THE SAME.

Reasons to be a Java hater:

1. Java is not multiplatform, it only runs where a JVM can run, and the JVM cannot run in all platforms (ej: iOS). C in the other hand is highly portable.
2. Java versioning can drive nuts anyone.
3. Java took up to version 8 to implement unsinged integers, lambda expressions and a deterministic way to destroy objects (try-with-resource).
4. Why the f*ck almost everything must be in the heap? That's incredible slow.
5. Memory usage in Java sucks much, specially in 32 bits platforms.
6. Lately Java has proven to be an incredible vulnerabilities' nest, and lets add that because java is "multiplatform" (see 1) the vulnerabilities are therefor "multiplatform".
7. Generics is a cheap compiler trick, I mean if I have a Vector<int> why must I create an array of integers to get the content of the vector?
8. List could go on... but imma lazy

I think the only two cool futures Java has is full flagged anonymous classes and enums with a lot of cool features.

And about C. They give you more control, like using a standard car vs an automatic one, gotta go fast? you want to use a standard car

[lunar_furor]

Java has run on iOs for at least 2 years now.
and accessing vectors doesn't require a seperate array.

I'm not saying Java's perfect. As with anything I'm just saying being an outright hater of something with clear use is just plain irresponsible. If I were going into an interview and said "I'm a java hater" I'd almost gaurenteed loose that opportunity. Every major language has its uses. C, Java, Lua, Python, Ruby, Perl, COBOL, ALL used in industrial, and professional settings. Is java right for most things? Probably not. I'm not saying go and be a Java pro. Being a C++ pro is fine, most programming concepts translate to other languages just fine. But if your boss says, hay do this in java for x reason, and you say Java is shite or argue in anyway, lost money.

[assdef]

WHY MUST EVERY THREAD NOW BE PROGRAMMING THREAD???

[ThingerDudes]

the matrix programming is all around us

[lunar_furor]

Why not? People used to take their tvs and radios apart and talk about electronics or wood working. Most of our stuff is now digital, programming is just the building of your software.

[assdef]

I don't want to understand this programming nonsense, I just want to be able to post mean comments on YouTube.

[RandomBomb]

Also, you know how no one does anything on RP? Well, it's gotten worse.

[lunar_furor]

Rp is one of those tricky things I've been trying to solve from other peoples examples. We have a very small community for RP so it's hard to keep it busy, on the other hand when there are a lot of people you come back to 2 pages you have to read through to stay accurate. I've had an idea of limiting inputs to a time frame and size to mitigate that but so far haven't come up with much. Something like you can post once a week so many paragraphs or something, so that the content is well thought out, but then it's a lot of content, and all that. We can't really take turns because not enough people are active and if someone drops out how do you handle that? That one would be my preferred choice I think.

[Shai'tan]

Interesting hmmmm. Do youuuuu know about C++ shai? and how have you been?

Afraid I don't know C++. Done some C but I'm no expert. I mostly know Java and some Scheme.

[assdef]

Afraid I don't know C++.

Why are you afraid of this? Is C++ going to kill all humans??

[lunar_furor]

Probably :/ It's all good Vrai is probably on the case

[assdef]

Detective Vrai, P.I.?

[atomtengeralattjaro]

nah, he's just a taco sitting on a suitcase.

[lunar_furor]

I remember suitcases. That's cute.

[ThingerDudes]

do suitcases only contain suits or can they hold other things?